thanks so much Tobjorn, I am sorry I cannot spell your name right with this keyboard, it is an old ipad and can’t be updated…much like me my wife says….anyways, I am not sure if I could post pictures to this site so I could show you the blowdown and trails I am referring to and the size of the timber. I realize if the roots come completely out the tree would be not be saveable but a lot of the trees I saw still had half the roots in the ground. I also remember on the video I was watching of Swedish logging practices they were interviewing a guy who owned/operated a feller/processer with a GPS on it and he got his orders of where and how much to,cut in the morning and he was paid every day at the end of shift because the computer logged all data…very cool machine…they also showed the inside of a sawmill and it was soooooo clean compared to,ours here and at lunch the guys went down the street to the local inn and had lunch and a beer…that would/could never happen here…we aren’t civilized enough for that….whenever I hear people complaining about the state of our forests over here I always tell them to bring in the Swedes to run our forests and we will finally become sustaiainable…its all cut and run here with as little effort or spending on the future as possible…sorry for the tirade but I love the forest and logging but not happy with the big companies at all…